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our next talk will be by vilem fun fun

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and barrack and he will be speaking

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about party Benin burg he'll be speaking

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about and we're asking a question was it

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an illusion a quantitative analysis of

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can you hear me now I don't seem very

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loud oh okay well you seem to have

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started the video a little prematurely

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get back to that okay well I spent 30

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years as a teacher of first and second

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year physics and possibly as a

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consequence of that deep down as a

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matter of faith I don't believe that any

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of the so-called paranormal phenomena

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that people study is possible however

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I'm still fascinated by phenomena like

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psychokinetic metalbending and I was

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excited to find a way to test firsthand

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whether it is possible I've seen

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professional Mentalist of Anu performed

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several times since first seeing him at

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the ice cream social at the SSC

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conference last year and then on an

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occasion in this past March I gave him a

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marked stainless steel spoon and

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recorded video of him bending and

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twisting it and then at home I performed

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some experiments on identical spoons

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which showed that what he did could not

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have been accomplished by ordinary

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muscular effort and I put all of that

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into a movie which I'm now going to show

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you hopefully let's see I guess I don't

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even know which but is this the yes okay

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that's that's equivalent to clicking so

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on March 3rd 2016 I handed Mentalist

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Allen knew a spoon like this that I had

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bought from a restaurant supply company

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and you can see there I have marked

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marked a letter M or W depending on how

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you hold it and here he is here's the

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shot as me filming him

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now we should have audio oh come on all

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right sorry

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oh it was on mute just rewind just a

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little bit no more there okay again

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we're gonna create the most amount of

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energy you're making me embarrassed

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Chinese called Qi Gong with something

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like this oh my god oh my god don't move

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it around too much I can't follow you

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you are he was amazing

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can you well I don't want you to break

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it whatever way what you say 360 360

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sometimes it's doing thank you

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so there's there the two spoons the

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actual spoon is the one I'm holding in

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my hand that's the lower image and the

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other one is services of before but it's

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actually a different spoon now it looked

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like he affected 180 degree twist in the

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handle simply by mental intention but

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could he possibly have served ish ously

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used muscular force to do it the next

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part of this movie analyzes how much

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torque would have had to been we could

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have been required and how much we could

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have a quote here they were bought at

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the same time from the same source

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identical to the spoon that I gave to

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mr. knew except that I've had some bolts

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some hex head bolts welded to this

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so that I can attach them to a torque

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wrench which I'm going to do so there

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are the two spoons or before now first

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I'm going to take this spoon and

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brutally bend it in half as mr. new did

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and then straighten it out as he did

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just in case this bending and rhe

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straightening might weaken the structure

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so that's easy to twist having done this

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and put the torque wrench on like so let

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can't quite see there's a reflection

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that's pretty good so the first thing I

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want to do is see how much torque I

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could put on without deforming the

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middle so let's try that

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spoon bends a bit but it snaps back to

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its original position original

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conformation keep snapping back so I can

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put 25 looks like about 25 inch pounds

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and it still doesn't deform go the other

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it tends to go right back to where it

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started from so what I'm going to do now

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is see how much torque okay 20 20 inch

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pounds doesn't deform it permanently

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it's not very much so let me see what I

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can do in terms of completely twisting

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it 180 degrees start I'll start here I'm

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so that

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yes rather drastically permanently

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here's a measurement of how much torque

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can be exerted on the spoon by my bare

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hands so here's the torque wrench

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mounted in a vise I'm going to grab this

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wrench just to show that I what I'm

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so I can exert quite a lot of torque by

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using this adjustable wrench but I know

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they can't exert much force at all much

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torque brother lots of horse minimal

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I am

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using as much force as I can but the

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at most maybe eighty five inch pounds

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let's take a look at what happens when I

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try to use both hands to deform the

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spoon this is the one I haven't deformed

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yet and I won't be able to with both

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maybe a couple of inch pounds but I

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would need ten times as much to

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so this is about it the upper one is a

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spoon I twisted in the movie and the

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lower picture is the actual spoon that

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mr. new twisted without using muscular

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force and that concludes the video and

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all I would say in summary is that would

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have taken 25 inch pounds of torque to

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do this but he had it was not possible

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for a person with bare hands to do that

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and I don't know there are few seconds

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for questions first alone is a good

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personal friend of mine

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Oh thee it absolutely is a trick I can

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show you how to read in fact last year

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at Sunset Station we had a seminar

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teaching people specifically how to do

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it I can tell you anytime you see this

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around the neck you know but your hands

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or anywhere it disappears

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it's a trick now we have seen I know

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jack aqueous teach macro PK where it's

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like this and there's no physical force

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on that but Alon is using physical force

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and he does teach it under the right

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circumstances I don't believe you well

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he taught how to do it well I have one

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of the spoons from last year that I saw

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being bent and I think it may have been

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by the same guy yeah yeah and and and

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then I I found a spoon you know on one

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of the trays at that snack area that was

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the same kind and I saved that one too

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so not quite as controlled as what you

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did but if anyone has ideas about how to

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do further analysis let me know

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and you might anyway the only flaw that

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I see that was pointed out to me by

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Garret Liddell is that he he bent the

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spoon in half and then straightening it

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again without you know and then did the

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thing with 180 degree twist I'll be more

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specific I mean like it might be

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interesting to look it at a

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cross-section with an electron

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microscope or something yeah so I mean I

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do believe it's possible you know like

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you've been spoon with your minds but I

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do agree that's probably your trick

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there is a show and Discovery Channel

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where we do claim something similar

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happens to your mind and was discussing

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with Dean Radin

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you can actually you know has long

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sleeves is like piece of metal that can

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come out that can in you know incredible

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torch

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this is spoon I gave him and the spoon

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he gave back to me while I was filming

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yeah but you can you can have it devised

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that comes out of you Steve and you can

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to twist this like that trick he was

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using let's see Superman I believe it's

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a tricky this specific one is a trick

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okay I am here in Borden I teach spin

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bending about 10% of people can do it

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including the spiral rotation and so I

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just invite anyone to meet up with me

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either you know during the conference